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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Dec 4, 2013 8:06pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

Read Online does count. That's what i did to increase it from 2 to 3.

What do you mean by "accessing" when you say
"We've been accessing these items...". Can you please explain exactly what you've been doing

This post was modified by Jeff Kaplan on 2013-12-05 04:06:45

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Poster: aibek Date: Dec 4, 2013 11:46pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

I clicked on the Read Online link, and read a few pages of each of the following two books. (i.e., I could properly open the two books, and could use both in the expected manner.)

https://archive.org/details/OperationUSO
https://archive.org/details/USOFiveYearsOfService

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Dec 5, 2013 6:51am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

thanks. i was actually hoping to find out what bakerl was doing when "accessing" the books.

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Poster: bakerl Date: Dec 5, 2013 10:02am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

I think most people are clicking "Read Online". A smaller number of people are clicking the PDF link. With the exception of Jeff's getting a counter to change from 2 to 3 on one of the items, our counters have stayed the same for about 2 weeks. One item (USO, Five Years of Service) at https://archive.org/details/USOFiveYearsOfService does not even have a download counter, as if to say there are zero uses of that item.

Is anyone else noting discrepancies with the counter? It is discouraging to think it is just us.

Baring the download counter, is there any other way to demonstrate that our items are being accessed? We are needing a way to show to our library administration that our contributions to Internet Archive are worthwhile, and while open access is a great personal reason, we need "hard evidence" to demonstrate value. Thanks for any counter help or workaround suggestions. I really appreciate that IA is continuing to look into this.


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Poster: aibek Date: Dec 6, 2013 7:27pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

> is there any other way to demonstrate that our items are being accessed

Another thing you can do is to embed the books on a website you control (the course website?), and ask students to use the urls containing the embedded links for accessing the books. Then you can use your own download counter to find the number of times the books were accessed.

https://openlibrary.org/dev/docs/bookreader#embedding

Actually, constructing such a system is better than making use of the IA download count, as the IA download count (if working properly) would be much lesser than the real download count anyway. That is because your college likely has only one outward facing IP, and according to Jeff’s replies on other posts, one download count is recorded per IP, per day for every item. In short, it is quite likely that all the accesses from the library computers over a month would be collapsed by a correctly working IA download counter to 30 downloads/month.

This post was modified by aibek on 2013-12-07 03:27:07

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Poster: aibek Date: Dec 5, 2013 7:36pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

> is there any other way to demonstrate that our items are being accessed?

Browsers save the time of each visit in their History. If your library computers log the history, a Poor Man’s Substitute for the IA download count will be to check the browser’s history. You should check (i) the Read Online link, and (ii) all the separate file format links for all the items.

A way to check the download counts for Firefox:
http://lifehacker.com/396598/see-how-often-you-visit-web-sites-in-firefox-3

The above information is saved in places.sqlite database in the mozilla profile folder.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Places.sqlite

This post was modified by aibek on 2013-12-06 03:36:37

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Dec 5, 2013 10:34am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

no. download counts are notoriously fickle due to arcance complexities on the site. i'll ask an engineer to check into it but i can't promise how soon i'll have a response.

a couple of questions. what browser/os configurations are being used. if it's lots of different ones you don't need to tell me every one.

and, are you clearing your cache before you use "Read Online" again? Reason I ask is that there is a possibility that each time you view it you are actually viewing cached images and not doing a new download.

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Poster: bakerl Date: Dec 5, 2013 11:36am
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

Most common os/browser combinations:

Windows 7/Firefox 25.0.1/Chrome 31.0.1650.63
OS X 10.7.5/same browsers as above

Cache may not have been cleared after each view. Good point. However, each computer is logged out after each class not to mentioned restarted each day, so I would expect at least one logged use each day.

Thank you for sticking with this issue and caring enough to check into it. I really appreciate that.

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Poster: aibek Date: Dec 5, 2013 8:19pm
Forum: forums Subject: Re: Download counter broken?

My User Agent is:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20131030 Firefox/17.0 Iceweasel/17.0.10